Comments on: Another South African “Madeleine Finder” arrives in Portugal http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/ What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:22:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Liz Y http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-3/#comment-22950 Liz Y Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:29:04 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22950 According to Wyksie, she's in someone's garden, in the ground under, '2 trees' and is 2-3 feet down (his words). But he still thinks there's a chance that she's alive. He's just not for real is he?? This family gets weirder by the minute. Absolutely barking, all of them!! You say you've had two stints in Luz, but it doesn't matter who paid. Surely your selling all your assets paid for at least one. Martin, the reason these persons, organisations, McCanns etc don't want to get in touch with you, it's because your actions and explanations are totally bizarre, you're probably coming across as some kind of NUT with an strong obsession over Madeleine, and your sister's really don't help you, it's a bit like Martin the beloved and the Angels of death. Like I said before, if the opinions of the people on this thread don't interest you, go away and do the deed, find Madeleine, then come on here to gloat as, at the moment, you're just recycling a load of hot air. Don't give up your day job though!! According to Wyksie, she’s in someone’s garden, in the ground under, ’2 trees’ and is 2-3 feet down (his words). But he still thinks there’s a chance that she’s alive. He’s just not for real is he?? This family gets weirder by the minute. Absolutely barking, all of them!! You say you’ve had two stints in Luz, but it doesn’t matter who paid. Surely your selling all your assets paid for at least one. Martin, the reason these persons, organisations, McCanns etc don’t want to get in touch with you, it’s because your actions and explanations are totally bizarre, you’re probably coming across as some kind of NUT with an strong obsession over Madeleine, and your sister’s really don’t help you, it’s a bit like Martin the beloved and the Angels of death. Like I said before, if the opinions of the people on this thread don’t interest you, go away and do the deed, find Madeleine, then come on here to gloat as, at the moment, you’re just recycling a load of hot air.
Don’t give up your day job though!!

]]> By: Taurus http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-3/#comment-22737 Taurus Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:51:55 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22737 Where she now then? Where she now then?

]]> By: Martin http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-3/#comment-22734 Martin Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:34:36 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22734 You would by now have noticed that I really do not give a hoot what anybody on this site has to say and the response to your postings I leave to my family and friends, You see, it works - Keeping you out of my hair. The initial contact with this site was made in confidence to SITE ADMIN, who was cute enough to make it public by posting my email on this site. Here is the short and the tall..... I have had two stints in Luz ( it doesn't matter how and why, or who paid for it), During my investigation I came up with a theory regarding Madeleine ( again - how I arrived at the conclusion, also doesn't matter ). This now has to be proved. ( THAT IS A PROBLEM ) All the relevant "players" in this entire sad case were contacted, from the Mc Cann's, to their appointed spokespeople, to the police in Lisbon, as well as the police in the Uk. Nobody would listen. WHAT NOW ????? To date, NOT ONE PERSON / ORGANISATION (Public or private) has come any closer to giving us any answers regarding the well being or location of Madeline Beth Mc Cann. The day the family went public, she also became my problem, AND I WANT TO KNOW ... the world wants to know. If she is found alive ( AS I PRAY SHE IS ) nobody will be happier, but if she was harmed, then the person/s responsible, MUST ANSWER. I also have questions that need to be answered, and will keep on searching for the answers. Let's see what comes up in the near future. You would by now have noticed that I really do not give a hoot what anybody on this site has to say and the response to your postings I leave to my family and friends, You see, it works – Keeping you out of my hair. The initial contact with this site was made in confidence to SITE ADMIN, who was cute enough to make it public by posting my email on this site. Here is the short and the tall…..

I have had two stints in Luz ( it doesn’t matter how and why, or who paid for it), During my investigation I came up with a theory regarding Madeleine ( again – how I arrived at the conclusion, also doesn’t matter ). This now has to be proved. ( THAT IS A PROBLEM ) All the relevant “players” in this entire sad case were contacted, from the Mc Cann’s, to their appointed spokespeople, to the police in Lisbon, as well as the police in the Uk. Nobody would listen. WHAT NOW ????? To date, NOT ONE PERSON / ORGANISATION (Public or private) has come any closer to giving us any answers regarding the well being or location of Madeline Beth Mc Cann. The day the family went public, she also became my problem, AND I WANT TO KNOW … the world wants to know. If she is found alive ( AS I PRAY SHE IS ) nobody will be happier, but if she was harmed, then the person/s responsible, MUST ANSWER.
I also have questions that need to be answered, and will keep on searching for the answers. Let’s see what comes up in the near future.

]]> By: Liz Y http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-3/#comment-22103 Liz Y Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:22:32 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22103 Helen, Thanks for your support, it was much appreciated, have a fabulous weekend! Helen, Thanks for your support, it was much appreciated, have a fabulous weekend!

]]> By: Liz Y http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-22086 Liz Y Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:14:10 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22086 Aquarius, Whilst I am gratified that I've gotten you going enough to send a whole flurry of vitriolic posts, your description of me is laughable, don't judge me by your own standards. Why on earth should I want to contact you, there's quite sufficient of your familial crap here to keep me going for years. Why on earth do you want my name, unless it's a threat in which case I would take action? And there's no need for you to spell facebook, there I did it all by myself. A question, why make 5 different posts when half a one would do? All hot air, no results, but, that's because the washing machine broke, or, it was snowing, or the forty odd thousand for a visa, or, or!!! then NOTHING over and over, and over again. You ask 'do you think this invesigation is a piece of cake.' No not at all. I think it's pile of crap and you and yours are barking mad. You must be or you would know that the postings of your family are more than a little strange. Anybody else would have sussed that NOBODY believes them. Anyway I apologise to everyone else on here for going off topic. Aquarius, Whilst I am gratified that I’ve gotten you going enough to send a whole flurry of vitriolic posts, your description of me is laughable, don’t judge me by your own standards. Why on earth should I want to contact you, there’s quite sufficient of your familial crap here to keep me going for years. Why on earth do you want my name, unless it’s a threat in which case I would take action? And there’s no need for you to spell facebook, there I did it all by myself. A question, why make 5 different posts when half a one would do? All hot air, no results, but, that’s because the washing machine broke, or, it was snowing, or the forty odd thousand for a visa, or, or!!! then NOTHING over and over, and over again. You ask ‘do you think this invesigation is a piece of cake.’ No not at all. I think it’s pile of crap and you and yours are barking mad. You must be or you would know that the postings of your family are more than a little strange. Anybody else would have sussed that NOBODY believes them. Anyway I apologise to everyone else on here for going off topic.

]]> By: Helen http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-22013 Helen Mon, 04 Jul 2011 07:46:36 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22013 Oh my god Aquarius will you just give it a rest!! Whats with the multiple posts? Look at your them, read them for gods sake. Rambling on about nothing!! Anyone would think you are a Troll with all the rubbish you are spouting trying to get a reaction.........Which has worked on this occasion. Stop trying to be personal, its nothing to do with the reason this website started. The reason is to find Maddie and the fact no one believes the crap you and your brother are spouting. Whatever your surname is who cares? Who cares if you are blonde? Get back on topic as you are losing any credibilty you may have once had...... if you had any. My Uhming and arring as you put it is agreeing with Liz's posts as most of the time i dont see the point in adding pointless drivel if what i want to say has already been said. As for Facebook, i have NO desire in contacting anybody on there, that is my personal page and i do not contact any strangers on there. So that would be why i have ignored the invite and probably why Liz has too. At the end of the day until there is something to believe of what you are saying we will continue to think you are talking rubbish. Its quite simple really, just prove what you are saying....... Oh my god Aquarius will you just give it a rest!! Whats with the multiple posts? Look at your them, read them for gods sake.
Rambling on about nothing!! Anyone would think you are a Troll with all the rubbish you are spouting trying to get a reaction………Which has worked on this occasion.
Stop trying to be personal, its nothing to do with the reason this website started.
The reason is to find Maddie and the fact no one believes the crap you and your brother are spouting.
Whatever your surname is who cares? Who cares if you are blonde?
Get back on topic as you are losing any credibilty you may have once had…… if you had any.
My Uhming and arring as you put it is agreeing with Liz’s posts as most of the time i dont see the point in adding pointless drivel if what i want to say has already been said.
As for Facebook, i have NO desire in contacting anybody on there, that is my personal page and i do not contact any strangers on there. So that would be why i have ignored the invite and probably why Liz has too.
At the end of the day until there is something to believe of what you are saying we will continue to think you are talking rubbish.
Its quite simple really, just prove what you are saying…….

]]> By: Taurus http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-22003 Taurus Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:58:40 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-22003 always gets ‘cut off’ after being promised “yes, it’s fine, now you can come” and then suddenly everyone goes quiet. That is so not true. Martin knows he cannot go anywhere without having the funds to do so. Even if you agree to sponsor someone you cannot pack and be there when you want if you cannot raise the plane fare. This case is not a paid one and so there is no salary in it. There will not be any reward at all to anyone who flies to Praia da Luz or UK, and Martin can feel free to chuck some ideas around on emails as to what happened to Madeleine,but she will still be unfound as to those who have psychic voices. I think that now would be a good time to consider all the money spent on flying there and let the Portugese and Scotland Yard sort it out as they are paid to do so. This case because of the so called 2.5 million reward has had many hundreds of calls in to say of a location in someone's back yard, of course it would have to be one that is best suited as the original one of psychics as he was first suspected by those with a very vivid imagination. The message is let Scotland Yard do the leg work and find out if Madeleine is where Martin says for they have full copy of that theory of Martin's. But if by some chance she was that means those who said of where she was could find no safe haven. I have to say that running around countries is very expensive and it is no holiday. Therefore a tour operator should be consulted. He cannot go and stay with anyone in Europe as he needs to have the funds to do so. Thus, there is no way that a journey can be had and the support by other than the McCann's Fund paying for it as he knows. He had all the means to come to UK but could not afford it as he said to see the benefactors as he wanted, and that would mean a private deal as it would be a working holiday of his own and not working as intended as manual labour at someone's property. British press have not replied, nor has any other and the story has lost the impact as it is on the internet and fading in popularity. The issue is a promise is two way, I cannot fly to South Africa to stay with someone for ten weeks and vice versa if I do not have the means to get there, as is the case here. It is that simple as Martin knows, and if you fall out over the agenda then it is nigh on impossible to be a host is it not to a person? Again, to repeat, the persons offering the reward as stated by Philomena will not pay out on her say so. She was wrong to write that email to anyone saying it is 'to find Madeleine'. My telephone bill as Martin knows was over £200 to engage with him on the visa and coming here to work for me on my property. I paid that and it was not for my gain at all as he knows. Thank you would be in order as I tried to get him here as he knows. But the lack of funding caused him to think again. He knows that. always gets ‘cut off’ after being promised “yes, it’s fine, now you can come” and then suddenly everyone goes quiet.

That is so not true. Martin knows he cannot go anywhere without having the funds to do so. Even if you agree to sponsor someone you cannot pack and be there when you want if you cannot raise the plane fare. This case is not a paid one and so there is no salary in it.

There will not be any reward at all to anyone who flies to Praia da Luz or UK, and Martin can feel free to chuck some ideas around on emails as to what happened to Madeleine,but she will still be unfound as to those who have psychic voices. I think that now would be a good time to consider all the money spent on flying there and let the Portugese and Scotland Yard sort it out as they are paid to do so. This case because of the so called 2.5 million reward has had many hundreds of calls in to say of a location in someone’s back yard, of course it would have to be one that is best suited as the original one of psychics as he was first suspected by those with a very vivid imagination.

The message is let Scotland Yard do the leg work and find out if Madeleine is where Martin says for they have full copy of that theory of Martin’s. But if by some chance she was that means those who said of where she was could find no safe haven. I have to say that running around countries is very expensive and it is no holiday. Therefore a tour operator should be consulted. He cannot go and stay with anyone in Europe as he needs to have the funds to do so. Thus, there is no way that a journey can be had and the support by other than the McCann’s Fund paying for it as he knows. He had all the means to come to UK but could not afford it as he said to see the benefactors as he wanted, and that would mean a private deal as it would be a working holiday of his own and not working as intended as manual labour at someone’s property.

British press have not replied, nor has any other and the story has lost the impact as it is on the internet and fading in popularity. The issue is a promise is two way, I cannot fly to South Africa to stay with someone for ten weeks and vice versa if I do not have the means to get there, as is the case here. It is that simple as Martin knows, and if you fall out over the agenda then it is nigh on impossible to be a host is it not to a person?

Again, to repeat, the persons offering the reward as stated by Philomena will not pay out on her say so. She was wrong to write that email to anyone saying it is ‘to find Madeleine’. My telephone bill as Martin knows was over £200 to engage with him on the visa and coming here to work for me on my property. I paid that and it was not for my gain at all as he knows. Thank you would be in order as I tried to get him here as he knows. But the lack of funding caused him to think again. He knows that.

]]> By: Aquarius http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-21999 Aquarius Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:54:31 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-21999 Silly me, Liz. Sorry for being such a delinquent ... as you know I'm blonde and not very smart. On FB (pronounced in short "ef-bee") which is short for F-A-C-E-B-O-O-K (a social network site) my name is Bernice Manson (no relation to Charles) so you're welcome to chat to me there if you wish unless you don't want the world to see exactly what your gripe is regarding the case. Or you can stay here sending messages back and forth, back and forth, that people only pick up once in a while when they check their mail as we don't all sit around our e-mail accounts waiting for inbox messages to come flooding in. You see, we have work to do, people to socialise with, clients to see .... and dogs to walk. Would love to know who Liz "Y" is ... Silly me, Liz. Sorry for being such a delinquent … as you know I’m blonde and not very smart.

On FB (pronounced in short “ef-bee”) which is short for F-A-C-E-B-O-O-K (a social network site) my name is Bernice Manson (no relation to Charles) so you’re welcome to chat to me there if you wish unless you don’t want the world to see exactly what your gripe is regarding the case.

Or you can stay here sending messages back and forth, back and forth, that people only pick up once in a while when they check their mail as we don’t all sit around our e-mail accounts waiting for inbox messages to come flooding in. You see, we have work to do, people to socialise with, clients to see …. and dogs to walk.

Would love to know who Liz “Y” is …

]]> By: Aquarius http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-21998 Aquarius Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:46:07 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-21998 Sorry, but yes, you guessed it, I'm blonde! Takes a while to sink in. I guess Liz wears glasses, wears plaid skirts, pale beige knee-high stockings and nurse's shoes which makes her more intelligent. Liz's little 'rhyme' about 'wyk' and slang? Liz? Were you perhaps thinking along the lines of 'snake' 'cos it rhymes with 'wyk' ... if you're South African. Just a thought ... Sorry, but yes, you guessed it, I’m blonde! Takes a while to sink in. I guess Liz wears glasses, wears plaid skirts, pale beige knee-high stockings and nurse’s shoes which makes her more intelligent.

Liz’s little ‘rhyme’ about ‘wyk’ and slang? Liz? Were you perhaps thinking along the lines of ‘snake’ ‘cos it rhymes with ‘wyk’ … if you’re South African.

Just a thought …

]]> By: Aquarius http://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/comment-page-2/#comment-21997 Aquarius Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:40:06 +0000 http://truthformadeleine.com/?p=2133#comment-21997 Liz "Y" Just read your rambling on 28th June about me being Martin's sister. Yes, I am his sister. Seven years difference, second youngest of four children - three girls, one boy. You've met my other sister, "Liberty" on this site and you have yet to meet the youngest. I'm the mother of three children, work really hard for what I believe in and what I aim to achieve for my kids. You think this investigation is a piece of cake? You think liaising with the authorities and been given promised dates to fly over because 'all's sorted come finish up' or 'I want to be there when it's done' or 'can we please see your files but will you post them, if not, fly out and we'll discuss it this Friday' is a joke? All the backing in this investigation, everyone involved - not just Martin, myself, my family, his backing team, friends/family abroad - always gets 'cut off' after being promised "yes, it's fine, now you can come" and then suddenly everyone goes quiet. You think that planning your kids'lives, taking time from work, paying your bond, medical, etc in advance to continue with this investigation is a picnic and that this is a wild goose chase? There are higher authorities at work here but somebody with a brain like yours doesn't understand the intricacies of a case of this magnitude and sadly, probably never will. I told you to make contact with Martin on FB to see the causes he supports but NO. You sit there, in your chair (no dog), slandering all and sundry (no dog), probably spending Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc on your own (still no dog) and somehow very bitter at the world. Get a life girl! Stop being so bloody negative! Let me guess? You're more into the "Area 51" stories, huh? Or that Princess Di and Elvis live somewhere in Fiji with Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earheart? Wanna speak to me? Find me on facebook. I seem to think we invited you before (or was it Helen who now uhms and aahs to your every blog?) Damn but you're full of crap! As for Admin, I think this site needs somebody else 'giving their opinion.' SO glad I'm not your boss 'cos you would've been fired. Mmmm. Some hacking sounds good about now ..... Liz “Y”

Just read your rambling on 28th June about me being Martin’s sister. Yes, I am his sister. Seven years difference, second youngest of four children – three girls, one boy. You’ve met my other sister, “Liberty” on this site and you have yet to meet the youngest. I’m the mother of three children, work really hard for what I believe in and what I aim to achieve for my kids.

You think this investigation is a piece of cake? You think liaising with the authorities and been given promised dates to fly over because ‘all’s sorted come finish up’ or ‘I want to be there when it’s done’ or ‘can we please see your files but will you post them, if not, fly out and we’ll discuss it this Friday’ is a joke?

All the backing in this investigation, everyone involved – not just Martin, myself, my family, his backing team, friends/family abroad – always gets ‘cut off’ after being promised “yes, it’s fine, now you can come” and then suddenly everyone goes quiet. You think that planning your kids’lives, taking time from work, paying your bond, medical, etc in advance to continue with this investigation is a picnic and that this is a wild goose chase? There are higher authorities at work here but somebody with a brain like yours doesn’t understand the intricacies of a case of this magnitude and sadly, probably never will.

I told you to make contact with Martin on FB to see the causes he supports but NO. You sit there, in your chair (no dog), slandering all and sundry (no dog), probably spending Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc on your own (still no dog) and somehow very bitter at the world.

Get a life girl! Stop being so bloody negative! Let me guess? You’re more into the “Area 51″ stories, huh? Or that Princess Di and Elvis live somewhere in Fiji with Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earheart?

Wanna speak to me? Find me on facebook. I seem to think we invited you before (or was it Helen who now uhms and aahs to your every blog?)

Damn but you’re full of crap! As for Admin, I think this site needs somebody else ‘giving their opinion.’ SO glad I’m not your boss ‘cos you would’ve been fired. Mmmm. Some hacking sounds good about now …..

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